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1)5月26日(火)19時より・・・リクエスト、禅語等、知足、仏道をならふというは、自己をならふなり、空間が曲がるとは?

https://youtu.be/V5OyxP3BY_g

2)5月29日(金)19時より・・・TRUTH AND ACTUALITY(4)真理と実在

https://youtu.be/W61CwsfpAcM

1)以下のご質問です。

⑨知足
⑩禅という言葉の意味

「仏道をならふというは、自己をならふなり」を解説して頂けませんでしょうか。よろしくお願いいたします。

①アインシュタインが言う空間が曲がるということはどういうことか。
②相対的時間とは
③絶対的時間とは
④時間はいつ始まったのか。
⑤時間はいつか終わるのか。
⑥光速では時間がどう流れるのか。
⑦時間は空間の中でどう存在しているのか。

2)TRUTH AND ACTUALITY(4)真理と実在

四回目ですが、初めてでも大丈夫です。

こちらのPDFを印刷しておくと、便利ですchaptere1・・・・15ページまで(全部印刷すると大変なことになります)

https://www.holybooks.com/wp-content/uploads/Truth-and-Actuality-by-J-Krishanmurti.pdf

12ページ途中から
K: How am I to empty that consciousness and yet retain
knowledge which is not twisted - otherwise I can't function - and
reach a state, or whatever it is, which will comprehend reality. I
don't know if I'm making myself clear.
Dr B: Yes.
K: What I'm asking is: my human consciousness is its content,
which is knowledge; it's a messy conglomeration of irrational
knowledge and some which is correct. Can that consciousness
comprehend, or bring into itself, truth?
Dr B: No, it can't. K: Therefore, can this consciousness go to
that truth? It can't either. Then what?
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Dr B: There can be a perception of the falseness in this
consciousness. This consciousness is false, in the sense that it does
not run true. Because of the confused content it does not run true.
K: It's contradictory.
Dr B: It muddles things up.
K: Not,"muddles things up; it is a muddle.
Dr B: It is a muddle, yes, in the way it moves. Now then, one of
the main points of the muddle is that when consciousness reflects
on itself, the reflection has this character: it's as if there were a
mirror and consciousness were looking at itself through a mirror
and the mirror is reflecting consciousness as if it were not
consciousness but an independent reality.
K: Yes.
Dr B: Now therefore, the action which consciousness takes is
wrong, because it tries to improve the apparently independent
reality, whereas in fact to do this is just a muddle.
I would like to put it this way: the whole of consciousness is
somehow an instrument which is connected up to a deeper energy.
And as long as consciousness is connected in that way, it maintains
its state of wrong action.
K: Yes.
Dr B: So on seeing that this consciousness is reflecting itself
wrongly as independent of thought, what is needed is somehow to
disconnect the energy of consciousness. The whole of
consciousness has to be disconnected, so it would, as it were, lie
there without energy.
K: You're saying, don't feed it. My consciousness is a muddle, it
is confused, contradictory, and all the rest of it. And its very
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contradiction, its very muddle, gives its own energy.
Dr B: Well, I would say that the energy is not actually coming
from consciousness, but that as long as the energy is coming,
consciousness keeps the muddle going.
K: From where does it come?
Dr B: We'd have to say that perhaps it comes from something
deeper.
K: If it comes from something deeper, then we enter into the
whole field of gods and outside agency and so on.
Dr B: No, I wouldn't say the energy comes from an outside
agency. I would prefer to say it comes from me, in some sense.
K: Then the "me" is this consciousness?
Dr B: Yes.
K: So the content is creating its own energy. Would you say
that?
Dr B: In some sense it is, but the puzzle is that it seems
impossible for this content to create its own energy. That would be
saying that the content is able to create its own energy.
K: Actually, the content is creating its own energy. Look, I'm in
contradiction and that very contradiction gives me vitality. I have
got opposing desires. When I have opposing desires I have energy,
I fight. Therefore that desire is creating the energy - not God, or
something profounder - it is still desire. This is the trick that so
many played. They say there is an outside agency, a deeper energy
- but then one's back in the old field. But I realize the energy of
contradiction, the energy of desire, of will, of pursuit, of pleasure,
all that which is the content of my consciousness - which is
consciousness - is creating its own energy. Reality is this; reality is
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creating its own energy. I may say, "I derive my energy deep
down", but it's still reality.
Dr B: Yes, suppose we accept that, but the point is that seeing
the truth of this...
K: ...that's what I want to get at. Is this energy different from the
energy of truth?
Dr B: Yes.
K: It is different.
Dr B: But let's try to put it like this: reality may have many
levels of energy.
K: Yes.
Dr B: But a certain part of the energy has gone off the straight
line. Let's say the brain feeds energy to all the thought processes.
Now, if somehow the brain didn't feed energy to the thought
process that is confused, then the thing might straighten out.
K: That's it. If this energy runs along the straight thread it is a
reality without contradiction. It's an energy which is endless
because it has no friction. Now is that energy different from the
energy of truth?
Dr B: Yes. They are different, and as we once discussed, there
must be a deeper common source.
K: I'm not sure. You are suggesting that they both spring out of
the same root.
Dr B: That's what I suggest. But for the moment there is the
energy of truth which can comprehend the reality and -
K: - the other way it cannot.
Dr B: No, it cannot; but there appears to be some connection in
the sense that when truth comprehends reality, reality goes straight.
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So there appears to be a connection at least one way.
K: That's right, a one-way connection - truth loves this, this
doesn't love truth.
Dr B: But once the connection has been made, then reality runs
true and does not waste energy or make confusion.
K: You see, that's where meditation comes in. Generally,
meditation is from here to there, with practice and all th

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